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The Hobbit: The Tolkien Edit
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Bill O'Meally
2021-01-02 02:22:03 UTC
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I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. Someone else who found movies "spoiled by
an interminable running time, unengaging plot tangents and constant
narrative filibustering. What especially saddened me was how Bilbo (the
supposed protagonist of the story) was rendered absent for large
portions of the final two films", decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.

I just watched the 4+ hour movie on this rainy New Year's Day, and must
say I enjoyed it for the most part. I think it could have been pared
down a bit more, but this person did a rather remarkable job, and I
found it to be more seamless and professional than I expected it to be.
I suspect further cuts might have spoiled the continuity.

I downloaded the 6GB version, which took about 15 minutes. I had issues
with playing it through Torrent -- it kept buffering for about 5
seconds every 20-30 seconds or so. Very frustrating! I switched over to
QuikTime, and though the resolution did not seem to be quite as good,
it solved the buffering issue. There's also a 2GB version that is lower
resolution.

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Louis Epstein
2021-01-03 16:15:58 UTC
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Post by Bill O'Meally
I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. Someone else who found movies "spoiled by
an interminable running time, unengaging plot tangents and constant
narrative filibustering. What especially saddened me was how Bilbo (the
supposed protagonist of the story) was rendered absent for large
portions?of the final two films", decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.
The foregoing sentence has some editing issues relating also to
the content of the previous sentence (they may need combination
to be coherent).

As it is,it appears to say that Bilbo decided to edit the three
films (I suppose he might be looking for something to do in the
Undying Lands,but putting up with our world's twisted adaptations
of his life story seems a waste of his time to begin with).
Post by Bill O'Meally
I just watched the 4+ hour movie on this rainy New Year's Day, and must
say I enjoyed it for the most part. I think it could have been pared
down a bit more, but this person did a rather remarkable job, and I
found it to be more seamless and professional than I expected it to be.
I suspect further cuts might have spoiled the continuity.
I downloaded the 6GB version, which took about 15 minutes. I had issues
with playing it through Torrent -- it kept buffering for about 5
seconds every 20-30 seconds or so. Very frustrating! I switched over to
QuikTime, and though the resolution did not seem to be quite as good,
it solved the buffering issue. There's also a 2GB version that is lower
resolution.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
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Bill O'Meally
2021-01-03 19:54:00 UTC
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Post by Louis Epstein
The foregoing sentence has some editing issues relating also to
the content of the previous sentence (they may need combination
to be coherent).
As it is,it appears to say that Bilbo decided to edit the three
films (I suppose he might be looking for something to do in the
Undying Lands,but putting up with our world's twisted adaptations
of his life story seems a waste of his time to begin with).
One may think that if they choose to ignore the quotes. If not, it
should be clear that I was referring to the "someone else".
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Stan Brown
2021-01-04 15:32:23 UTC
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Post by Bill O'Meally
I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. Someone else ...
decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
Wow -- this edit dates back to 2015, but I had never heard of it.
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Paul S Person
2021-01-04 17:37:20 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 07:32:23 -0800, Stan Brown
Post by Stan Brown
Post by Bill O'Meally
I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. Someone else ...
decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
Wow -- this edit dates back to 2015, but I had never heard of it.
That probably has something to do with the person responsible not
wanting to go to prison for criminal copyright infringement.

Even the FBi can't arrest a perp if they don't know a crime has been
committed.
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"I have envied him long since."
O. Sharp
2021-01-04 21:36:36 UTC
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Post by Bill O'Meally
I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. [...]
I understand. You got one installment further than I did. :)
Post by Bill O'Meally
Someone else [...] decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
I watched some of it, and thought it was a definite improvement over the
original. Mind you, I didn't get through this version either - honestly,
I was surprised when I began to realize _The Hobbit_ just doesn't lend
itself well to film to begin with - but at least _this_ time I didn't
want to grab a letter-opener and stab whoever the hell was responsible
for Radagast, so that alone was a definite improvement over the
original. :)

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watched only once, eight years ago, it certainly left
an impression! Not a _good_ impression, mind you...
Paul S Person
2021-01-05 17:24:04 UTC
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Post by O. Sharp
Post by Bill O'Meally
I absolutely hated The Hobbit movies. I could not even bring myself to
watch the third installment. [...]
I understand. You got one installment further than I did. :)
Post by Bill O'Meally
Someone else [...] decided to edit the three films into
one by cutting out a lot of the non-cannonical, Jacksonesque fluff.
https://tolkieneditor.wordpress.com/
I watched some of it, and thought it was a definite improvement over the
original. Mind you, I didn't get through this version either - honestly,
I was surprised when I began to realize _The Hobbit_ just doesn't lend
itself well to film to begin with - but at least _this_ time I didn't
want to grab a letter-opener and stab whoever the hell was responsible
for Radagast, so that alone was a definite improvement over the
original. :)
I've always felt the Rankin-Bass version captured it very well.

Particularly considering the minor detail that /TH/ was written for
children. Something PJ didn't so much ignore as not even notice.
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"I begin to envy Petronius."
"I have envied him long since."
Thomas Koenig
2021-01-06 13:10:26 UTC
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I watched the first of the Hobbit films, and after that, didn't
bother to watch the other two. Simply not interesting.

The paper version of "The Hobbit" that I have as an interesting
typo. It says "This is a better adventure, if it must end so;
and not a mountain of gold can amend it."

Sort of changes the meaning by a lot...

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