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The Enduring Legacy of J.R.R. Tolkien
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MummyChunk
2024-01-07 09:56:51 UTC
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As we enter the year 2024, it is hard to imagine a world without th
influence of J.R.R. Tolkien, the author of The Hobbit and The Lord o
the Rings. His works have shaped the imagination of generations o
readers, inspired countless adaptations and spin-offs, and enriche
our culture with a wealth of mythology, language, and lore

Tolkien was born in 1892, and lived through two world wars, witnessin
the horrors of modern warfare and the rise and fall of empires. He wa
also a scholar of ancient languages and literature, and a devou
Catholic. His experiences and interests informed his creative vision
which he expressed in his stories of Middle-earth, a mythical lan
where elves, dwarves, hobbits, and men struggle against the dar
forces of evil

Tolkien’s stories are not only entertaining, but also profound an
relevant. They explore themes such as courage, friendship, loyalty
sacrifice, and redemption. They also reflect Tolkien’s moral an
spiritual values, which he shared with his friend and fellow write
C.S. Lewis. Tolkien believed that there was a higher purpose and
divine plan behind the events of history, and that even the smalles
and humblest of creatures could make a difference in the fate of th
world

Tolkien’s legacy is still alive and growing, as new generations o
fans discover and appreciate his works. In 2024, we can expect to se
more Tolkien-related events and products, such as

The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, a
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king o
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm’s Dee

The second season of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power,
live-action series by Amazon Prime Video that explores the origins o
the One Ring and the rise of Sauron in the Second Age of Middle-eart

The publication of The Tolkien Calendar 2024, featuring stunnin
paintings by Alan Lee inspired by The Fall of Númenor, a collection o
writings by Tolkien that chronicles the downfall of a grea
civilization in the Second Ag

The celebration of the Tolkien Birthday Toast, an annual traditio
that invites Tolkien fans all over the world to raise a glass an
toast the memory of the author on his birthday, Januar

These are just some of the ways that Tolkien’s works continue t
enrich our lives and culture. As we face the challenges an
uncertainties of our own time, we can find hope and inspiration i
Tolkien’s words and vision. He once wrote, "Not all those wh
wander are lost." Perhaps we can also say, not all those who rea
Tolkien are forgotten. He lives on in our hearts and minds, and in th
stories that we share with each other. He is, indeed, one of th
greatest generation of writers
Stan Brown
2024-01-11 22:06:43 UTC
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Just me, or does this scream "generated by an AI"?
As we enter the year 2024, it is hard to imagine a world without the
influence of J.R.R. Tolkien, the author of The Hobbit and The Lord of
the Rings. His works have shaped the imagination of generations of
readers, inspired countless adaptations and spin-offs, and enriched
our culture with a wealth of mythology, language, and lore.
Tolkien was born in 1892, and lived through two world wars, witnessing
the horrors of modern warfare and the rise and fall of empires. He was
also a scholar of ancient languages and literature, and a devout
Catholic. His experiences and interests informed his creative vision,
which he expressed in his stories of Middle-earth, a mythical land
where elves, dwarves, hobbits, and men struggle against the dark
forces of evil.
Tolkien?s stories are not only entertaining, but also profound and
relevant. They explore themes such as courage, friendship, loyalty,
sacrifice, and redemption. They also reflect Tolkien?s moral and
spiritual values, which he shared with his friend and fellow writer
C.S. Lewis. Tolkien believed that there was a higher purpose and a
divine plan behind the events of history, and that even the smallest
and humblest of creatures could make a difference in the fate of the
world.
Tolkien?s legacy is still alive and growing, as new generations of
fans discover and appreciate his works. In 2024, we can expect to see
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
The second season of The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, a
live-action series by Amazon Prime Video that explores the origins of
the One Ring and the rise of Sauron in the Second Age of Middle-earth
The publication of The Tolkien Calendar 2024, featuring stunning
paintings by Alan Lee inspired by The Fall of Númenor, a collection of
writings by Tolkien that chronicles the downfall of a great
civilization in the Second Age
The celebration of the Tolkien Birthday Toast, an annual tradition
that invites Tolkien fans all over the world to raise a glass and
toast the memory of the author on his birthday, January
These are just some of the ways that Tolkien?s works continue to
enrich our lives and culture. As we face the challenges and
uncertainties of our own time, we can find hope and inspiration in
Tolkien?s words and vision. He once wrote, "Not all those who
wander are lost." Perhaps we can also say, not all those who read
Tolkien are forgotten. He lives on in our hearts and minds, and in the
stories that we share with each other. He is, indeed, one of the
greatest generation of writers.
--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA
https://BrownMath.com/
Tolkien FAQs: http://Tolkien.slimy.com (Steuard Jensen)
Tolkien letters FAQ: https://preview.tinyurl.com/pr6sa7u
FAQ of the Rings: https://BrownMath.com/general/ringfaq.htm
Encyclopedia of Arda: https://www.glyphweb.com/arda/default.htm
kyonshi
2024-01-12 08:56:48 UTC
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Post by Stan Brown
Just me, or does this scream "generated by an AI"?
No, that's not AI, just some person doing some copy to fill a wordcount
and grasping for everything in reach.
kyonshi
2024-01-12 09:15:25 UTC
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The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm’s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
Paul S Person
2024-01-12 16:41:13 UTC
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Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
IMDb has it:
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>

Random info (from IMDb):
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.

It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.

Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
kyonshi
2024-01-12 17:02:53 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.
It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
Post by Paul S Person
Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.
Paul S Person
2024-01-13 17:03:24 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.
It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
Well, maybe they are running into problems, then.

I looked at the director on IMDb, but the only film I recognized was
/Akira/ -- for which he did some of the animation (background, IIRC).

He has (IIRC) directed some TV series, so it isn't as if this is
entirely new territory for him. The scale may be a bit larger, though.
Post by kyonshi
Post by Paul S Person
Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.
And how much nonsense they come up with when compared with the actual
story by JRRT. Not I that I recall anything relating to the first
battle of Helm's Deep, except, perhaps, as part of how the Rohirrim
(not, as PJ & friends apparently decided they were called "the
Rohans") got to Rohan.

And a dropped passage on how some of the people they displaced (who
were /not/ happy about that) showed up at the Muster of Rohan to march
to the aid of Gondor. But that's part of the later story.
--
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"
Louis Epstein
2024-01-24 16:37:19 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.
It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
Post by Paul S Person
Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.
Unfortunate that inaccurate embellishments can not be effectively prohibited.

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The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Louis Epstein
2024-02-16 19:21:14 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.
It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
Post by Paul S Person
Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.
Ironically producing even less accurate versions of the
earlier Ages than they would if permitted Silmarillion and UT
material.

Adaptations...JUST SAY NO!!!!

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
Kyonshi
2024-04-08 13:47:01 UTC
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Post by Paul S Person
Post by kyonshi
The release of The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim, an
animated movie that tells the story of Helm Hammerhand, the king of
Rohan, and the epic battle that took place at Helm?s Deep
Speaking about The War of the Rohirrim: there's no trailer out for that
one yet, and it's supposed to release this year. That's somewhat odd I
think. I'd assume with a property like Lord of the Rings attached there
would be way more marketing already. Instead... nothing. Not even a
poster that consists of more than just the title.
<https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14824600/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_war%2520of%2520the>
It is animated, and due to be released 12/13/24. Plenty of time for
trailers, posters, websites, etc.
It is about the /original/ battle of Helm's Deep and Helm Hammerhand.
Well yes, but there's barely any promotion going on, and it is supposed
to be released this year. I think the only pictures I saw of it were
from last year. I just find it odd in a world where every animated movie
has a trailer out a year in advance.
Post by Paul S Person
Since, AFAIK, only /The Hobbit/ and /Lord of the Rings/ are
licenseable, I would expect a lot of imagination on the part of the
filmmakers.
Yeah, it sometimes is very interesting what stuff they can drag out of
those two works.
Ironically producing even less accurate versions of the
earlier Ages than they would if permitted Silmarillion and UT
material.
Adaptations...JUST SAY NO!!!!
I dunno, adaptions can be good. It's just that nobody involved in those
big projects ever seems to be interested in making good products and
instead goes for whatever might make them the most bucks.
(which is funny because then some genuinely good adaption of some stuff
comes out and everyone learns exactly the wrong lessons from it)

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