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Tolkien's annotated map of Middle-earth discovered inside copy of Lord of the Rings
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Steve Hayes
2015-10-24 03:28:03 UTC
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Tolkien's annotated map of Middle-earth discovered inside copy of Lord
of the Rings

Map goes on sale in Oxford for £60,000 after being found at
Blackwell’s Rare Books inside novel belonging to illustrator Pauline
Baynes

Alison Flood

Friday 23 October 2015 13.48 BST
Last modified on Friday 23 October 2015 18.19 BST

A recently discovered map of Middle-earth annotated by JRR Tolkien
reveals The Lord of the Rings author’s observation that Hobbiton is on
the same latitude as Oxford, and implies that the Italian city of
Ravenna could be the inspiration behind the fictional city of Minas
Tirith.

The map was found loose in a copy of the acclaimed illustrator Pauline
Baynes’ copy of The Lord of the Rings. Baynes had removed the map from
another edition of the novel as she began work on her own colour Map
of Middle-earth for Tolkien, which would go on to be published by
Allen & Unwin in 1970. Tolkien himself had then copiously annotated it
in green ink and pencil, with Baynes adding her own notes to the
document while she worked.

Blackwell’s, which is currently exhibiting the map in Oxford and
selling it for £60,000, called it “an important document, and perhaps
the finest piece of Tolkien ephemera to emerge in the last 20 years at
least”.

It shows what Blackwell’s called “the exacting nature” of Tolkien’s
creative vision: he corrects place names, provides extra ones, and
gives Baynes a host of suggestions about the map’s various flora and
fauna. Hobbiton, he notes, “ is assumed to be approx at latitude of
Oxford”; Tolkien was a professor of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford University.
The notebooks reveal that Hobbiton is on the same latitude as Oxford,
and imply that the Italian city of Ravenna could be the inspiration
behind Minas Tirith.

The notebooks reveal that Hobbiton is on the same latitude as Oxford,
and imply that the Italian city of Ravenna could be the inspiration
behind Minas Tirith. Photograph: Blackwell’s Rare Books

The novelist also uses Belgrade, Cyprus, and Jerusalem as other
reference points, and according to Blackwell’s suggests that “the city
of Ravenna is the inspiration behind Minas Tirith - a key location in
the third book of the Lord of The Rings trilogy”.

“The map shows how completely obsessed he was with the details. Anyone
else interfered at their peril,” said Sian Wainwright at Blackwell’s.
“He was tricky to work with, but very rewarding in the end.”

Correspondence between Tolkien and the late and acclaimed illustrator
Baynes, who also worked on books for CS Lewis, as well as Baynes’s
unpublished diary entries, gives further details about the sometimes
thorny relationship between the two. On 21 August 1969, Baynes
describes a visit to Tolkien and his wife in Bournemouth, “to chat
about a poster map I have to do – he very uncooperative”.

The author later apologies for having “been so dilatory”, and a later
lunch sees the author “in great form – first names and kissing all
round – and pleased with the map”.

Henry Gott, modern first editions specialist at Blackwell’s Rare
Books, said the map was “an exciting and important discovery: new to
scholarship (though its existence is implied by correspondence between
the two), it demonstrates the care exercised by both in their mapping
of Tolkien’s creative vision”.

“Before going on display in the shop this week, this had only ever
been in private hands (Pauline Baynes’s for the majority of its
existence). One of the points of interest is how much of a hand
Tolkien had in the poster map; all of his suggestions, and there are
many (the majority of the annotation on the map is his), are reflected
in Baynes’s version,” said Gott. “The degree to which it is properly
collaborative was not previously apparent, and couldn’t be without a
document like this. Its importance is mostly to do with the insight it
gives into that process.”

Blackwell’s is selling a range of works by Baynes, who died in 2008,
aged 85, including a range of her original signed drawings from the
Narnia books.

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Taemon
2015-10-25 11:04:04 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
Tolkien's annotated map of Middle-earth discovered inside copy of Lord
of the Rings
Wow. Thank you.
t***@hotmail.com
2015-10-26 00:44:48 UTC
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More pictures of the map here:
http://www.kenyacentral.com/world/105262-map-of-middle-earth-with-tolkien-s-hand-written-notes-gives-insight-into-his-mind.html
Paul S. Person
2015-10-26 16:19:32 UTC
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Post by t***@hotmail.com
http://www.kenyacentral.com/world/105262-map-of-middle-earth-with-tolkien-s-hand-written-notes-gives-insight-into-his-mind.html
The picture wouldn't show, but, if it belonged to Baynes, then it was
no doubt used for her Atlas.
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her own terms through
the experience of our senses."
t***@hotmail.com
2015-10-27 03:20:32 UTC
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Post by Paul S. Person
Post by t***@hotmail.com
http://www.kenyacentral.com/world/105262-map-of-middle-earth-with-tolkien-s-hand-written-notes-gives-insight-into-his-mind.html
The picture wouldn't show, but, if it belonged to Baynes, then it was
no doubt used for her Atlas.
It is just the normal map that you can get as a pull out in some editions of UT or LotR, it is the notes on this particular map that make it interesting (if you can read JRRT's writing)...
Bill O'Meally
2015-10-27 13:55:41 UTC
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Post by Paul S. Person
The picture wouldn't show, but, if it belonged to Baynes, then it was
no doubt used for her Atlas.
Did Baynes do an Atlas, or are you confusing her with Karen Wynn Fonstad?
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Paul S. Person
2015-10-27 16:36:01 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:55:41 -0400, Bill O'Meally
Post by Bill O'Meally
Post by Paul S. Person
The picture wouldn't show, but, if it belonged to Baynes, then it was
no doubt used for her Atlas.
Did Baynes do an Atlas, or are you confusing her with Karen Wynn Fonstad?
The latter.

Sorry for the confusion.
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"Nature must be explained in
her own terms through
the experience of our senses."
Paul S. Person
2015-11-02 00:52:58 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Oct 2015 09:55:41 -0400, Bill O'Meally
Post by Bill O'Meally
Post by Paul S. Person
The picture wouldn't show, but, if it belonged to Baynes, then it was
no doubt used for her Atlas.
Did Baynes do an Atlas, or are you confusing her with Karen Wynn Fonstad?
I am confusing the two. Let me explain.

I am now reading /UT/. As part of starting it, I read not only the
introduction but also the introductory note to the Appendix (I was
curious why some names had an asterisk in front of them). This
referred me to a note on names published only on Pauline Bayne's
illustrated map.

I never purchased a copy of this poster (that I can recall, it has
been a /long/ time since 1970!), but since I have read /UT/ before, I
am vaguely aware of it.

So I confused Baynes' map with Fonstad's Atlas.
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"Nature must be explained in
her own terms through
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